November 24, 2004

Marxy's Guide to Foreign Views on Japan

From the posts on my blog and views elsewhere, I've created my own Right-to-Left continuum for views on Japan:

Far Right - The Colonialists - "Japan is dumb. The West is better. J-birds are easy. The Japanese are bad at English. Nova, where's my paycheck?" (Note: This view doesn't show up much on my site, but is probably the dominant mode of thought among the US/UK foreigners living in Japan.)

Moderate Right - The Collaborationists - "Japan's shining moment was the Dainippon Teikoku. Japan should stand up to North Korea more. Don't criticize Japanese culture when its Asian market success proves it to be right. Ishihara is correct to try to keep all the riff-raff out."

Neutral - The Casual Fans - "I like Japanese things."

Moderate Left - The Sociologists - "Japan is a modern society, and thus, should be judged on the same standards as other post-Industrial nations. Somethings work, but others could be improved. The remaining illiberal political culture should be eradicated for democracy's sake."

Hard Left - The Anthropologists - "Japan is a unique nation and cannot be judged by Western ethnocentric criteria. Let Japan be Japan. Stop trying to interfere."


Posted by marxy at November 24, 2004 3:00 PM
Comments

you crack me up

Posted by: Chris_B at November 24, 2004 3:33 PM

I'm assuming you'd call yourself a 'sociologist' and me an 'anthropologist' (I prefer 'anthro-apologist', because it ditches the pseudo-scientific claims.) I'm just a bit disturbed by this:

The remaining illiberal political culture should be eradicated for democracy's sake

This is the democratically-elected Japanese government you're talking about. I don't see why or how that could be 'eradicated for democracy's sake'. Surely if the Japanese people don't like it, they'll vote for someone else? That's democracy, no? Or are you advocating some kind of military intervention which imposes 'democracy' at the point of a gun, as in Iraq?

Posted by: Momus at November 24, 2004 5:47 PM

This is the democratically-elected Japanese government you're talking about. I don't see why or how that could be 'eradicated for democracy's sake'. Surely if the Japanese people don't like it, they'll vote for someone else? That's democracy, no? Or are you advocating some kind of military intervention which imposes 'democracy' at the point of a gun, as in Iraq?

No, no. I am talking about changing the laws etc. If there is gerrymandering of districts, for example, that is a classic anti-democratic practice which can be fixed - within the democratic system. I think you could pass laws that would curb the power of the bureaucracy, who run the government without being elected to office.

You're like an anthropologist in that you see Japan as a "native culture."

Posted by: marxy at November 24, 2004 7:51 PM

i've found a very interesting comment on a typical 'an american in japan' blog
http://www.livejournal.com/users/starofpersia/359609.html?thread=1660857#t1660857

can you agree it is quite a common feeling you, japan expats-us citizens have?
and i think there is smth strangely jungian about it ... there seem to be no other nation so much 'angry' with japan ...

Posted by: porandojin at November 29, 2004 12:35 AM

plus all these 'racist repressions' are not so really severe, or are they ?

Posted by: porandojin at November 29, 2004 12:38 AM

I'm not really angry at Japan as much as I am trying to analyze and report its decline. Momus seems to think I am inventing the decline in question through selective editing.

I find that racism does not especially exist against those of Western European stock, but I also find it hard to really excuse racism towards those from "lesser countries." I run into small annoying things once in a while, but I am not paranoid about the Japanese hating me. I've never had the desire to be accepted as a Japanese person. I just want to live where no one gets in my way. I find I can do this as easily here as in the US. Others may disagree.

I don't really like that people think I am "angry" at Japan. I'm not. I do think there are obvious places for improvement, however, and I also think the current view of "Futuristic Japan" and modern Japanese pop culture is way too rosy and ultimately unrealistic. My negativity stems from an attempt to counterbalance the overly positive.

Posted by: marxy at November 29, 2004 1:09 AM

yes, i understand your point, i try to read your blog carefully, i was just wondering if you agree many americans have a strange relation with japan, as if it was some kind of a missionary place for them ... as if i was a land they feel they need to care and help ...

Posted by: porandojin at November 29, 2004 1:20 AM

Well, historically America and Japan have been very close ever since America forceably opened Japan, Japan attacked America, America decimated Japan, and then America rebuilt Japan. Until the 90s, the Japanese always looked up to America as the "ideal" country. I think when they surpassed the Americans in wealth during the Bubble that Europe became a better model for "class" and "taste." But in general, the Japanese are closest to America than any other foreign nation. American scholarship provides the majority of thought about Japan. There are very active sister city relationships between Japanese and American cities, plus many Japanese-Americans living in the US today. The JET English teaching program accepts mainly Americans, no?

In some ways, it's historical. In other ways, it's the #1 and #2 economies sizing each other up.

Posted by: marxy at November 29, 2004 1:36 AM

Views of Korean children

http://uqmgp.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

Posted by: porandojin at June 18, 2005 10:00 PM